Jazz Shapers features interviews with founders & business shapers – who, like the shapers of jazz, soul and blues have defied convention, broken the mould and gone on to achieve great success. The show is presented weekly by broadcaster and Mishcon de Reya’s Partner and Chief Brand Officer Elliot Moss.

During the interview, Avin discusses the differences between investing in & launching a business, and the relentless nature of running a business. He also discusses the challenges of finding & hiring the best people for the current stage of your business. And he touches on his first experience with jazz, of course.

You can listen to the show via Apple podcasts or Spotify, or by using the players below.